Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Regressive Moral Values

The incident in Mangalore was the most despicable and deplorable incident I've seen in a long, long time. 40 men barged in to a pub shouting slogans and tried to do what they justify as moral policing. What they really did was molest 5 girls. The Sri Ram Sena argues that women in India are having their morals and their culture eroded by what is termed as the 'Pub Culture.' Even sadder is the response of our political parties who are busy playing the blame game.

What irritates me the most is that some people feel comfortable imposing their will over others. Such instances can be seen everywhere. Some people feel the need to police others morals. It is unfair for anyone to have to live according to the opinion of someone else.

I will not have anyone tell me:

- Who I can see.
- Where I can go.
- What I can or can't wear.
- What religious beliefs I can have.
- What patriotism means to me.
- What my habits should be.
- Who I can have as friends.
- What my culture is.

People who are desperately hanging on their beliefs find it necessary to impose them on others. Belief is personal. What is personal to me is nobody's business.


Aalta said...

Very true. And when they talk about Indian culture and Indian women, they keep forgetting that we were a progressive civilization even centuries ago. We had just as many pubs and whorehouses back then, as we do now. Public drinking (with women) was legalized under most kings in India. The Indian courtesans were the most sought after because they were smart, intellectual, would drink with men, and could debate them down in any topic. I am sure that the guys who protest are just pissed off because even back then, their ancestors were sore losers and jerks who were denied entry into the ancient pubs!

honey said...

truly said!!

Sumanth said...

Sri Ram Sena are a bunch of pathological lunatics just like some feudal goons seeking violence and attention in media.

If hooliganism, street violence, moral policing and taking law into their hands are signs of taliban, then let us see who all qualify to be termed as Taliban.

1) Mamita Benerjee dragged a SP MP by collar in Indian parliament. Has not she taken law into her hands and was as violent as Sri Ram Sena in the middle of India Parliament?

She is female Taliban according to the definition applied to "Sri Ram Sena".

2) Both Renuka Choudhury and Uma Bharati are accused of publicly slapping men (we have seen videos), they both are taliban as well.

So, what moral authority Renuka has got? He herself is partly responsible for harassment, arrest of 1,23,000 women with out investigation under one single IPC.

She needs attention, which her father or bf never seemed to have given.

3) Women's organisations attacked arrack sellers and husbands in south India, they are also taliban.

Banning liquor is taken from south Indian feminist text books only.

If liquor is injurious to social life in rural India, then it is equally injurious to social life in urban India as well. One guy being drunk killed 4 people just 3 km from my home in Bangalore.

4) Couple of women's organisations broke furniture in Delhi High court opposing whistle blower justice JD Kapoor's 2003 statement that "Dowry law is misused". A lot of misery would have been averted if these Taliban were arrested and punished severely in 2003 itself.

They are also Taliban.

5) Sri Ram sena called the girls prostitutes.
At 20% of 1,23,000 women were threatened about false cases of "prostitution" in Indian police stations when they were arrested under 498a.

If Sri Ram Sena is Taliban, then Indian Police is also Taliban. Ban Indian Police.

The Sri Ram Sena are just like children in comparison to the violent behaviour shown by Indian Feminists, Indian police and women's organisations.

There is no difference between women's organisations and Sri Ram Sena. Both want to oppose "drinking" by beating up the sellers and customers. Both are Taliban.

1) If a man drinks, he is a drunkard.
If a female drinks, then she is liberal.

2) Drinking in Pub is social service.
Drinking Arrack in village is criminal activity.

3) Arrack sellers have to be attacked.
Pub owners have to be given Ashok Chakra.

Only Urban morons have right to drink and murder people on road.

What a double standard?

Sri Ram Sena has to be banned, because they are Taliban.

Before that ban all other hardened Taliban, who slap men in public, attacked arrack shops, broke furniture in courts, lied and mislead the country.

Ban Renuka, ban Mamita, BAN AIDWA.
BAN Indian police, for calling innocent women prostitutes.


If terrorist Taliban Sri Ram Sena and extortinist police and taliban women's organisations are not banned, then people must be allowed to take law into their hands and beat up all these terrorists.

Some 20 women are beaten and molested in Mangalore.

The crimes committed by Indian police and UNIFEM funded feminists on Indian women (also men) are much bigger. Ban them all.


If a male MP dragged a female MP by collar in the parliament, has society reacted in the same casual way?

If a male MP or politician slapped a female in public view, has the society reacted casually?

Crime has no gender.

The social double standards are very clear.
Female criminals get away, where as male criminals are put in jail.

Today, being a female taliban is fashionable. After slapping men, these bitches are giving sermons on civilised behaviour.

Save Indian family

Aj said...

@honey: Glad you agree. I see you are from NRT. Do I know you? Just asking... its been quite a while since I was at NRT. :P

Aj said...

@Sumanth: Firstly, thanks for posting. Glad to hear that you agree that what the Sree Ram Sena did can be termed as hooliganism and moral policing.

I can understand that you have some grievances against women in power abusing their powers. What you say is correct in its own way that crime has no gender. They are all criminals.

However, consider the scenario here. Women were being beaten up for going to a pub. I think this warrants serious action. Why is this different from the case where a woman abuses her power? I am not really sure. In the world I come from, we do not raise our hand on a woman. It is disrespectful and uncouth. Woman are respected, honored and are to be treated with care. That is the cornerstone of any forward-thinking society. Personally, I feel it is more disrespectful for you to hit a woman than for a woman to hit you. Just my opinion. :)

You spoke about the woman's lib organizations beating up men and husbands. Heres another take on this: The husbands you're referring to generally are people who squander money on liquor and dont feed their families. In their drunken state, they beat their wives (bringing you back to the issue at hand). The people who sell liquor there usually sell cheap and unclean liquor. These husbands beat their wives and use that money to have this liquor. In most cases, they end up falling ill or becoming addicted. If you think all this is very filmy, think again buddy. This is reality for some people.

I can't comment much on the Indian police. It is common knowledge that they're as corrupt as any other government body. Sorry state of affairs but that is how things are. I understand your peeve about false cases being registered against girls. It is disgusting and something we as a nation are not proud of. You raised some very valid points, none of which are false, but you have to look at the greater good in it all. Forcing someone to follow religious dictates is unfair. Allowing people to have arrack is cool. But drunk people beating up their wives is unfair. You have a right to your life. You can impose yourself or your ideas on others. Otherwise, there will be no difference between us and the Taliban.

Parting shot, which pub owner got the Ashok Chakra? Just kidding. ;)

Aj said...

@Aalta: Lol sweetheart. Stupidity is hereditary... what say?

Aalta said...

Yes. It is a family heirloom passed down the generations. :P

Raj said...

Aj..... everyone have the rights to drink except kids...i know u wud agree with it.

abut the hooligans.. they shuld be slapped in public for that...i hope someday we get that oppertunity to hit them..

BY the way good new.. i have stopped drinking...

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